NordVPN claims that they don't keep logs. Is this true and does that make it more secure?

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I’ve looked into VPNs some in the past but for the first time I’m looking to actually purchase a subscription to one. While searching I happened to run into this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/VPNTorrents/comments/blfqla/whats_considered_the_best_vpn_please_share_your/

The first comment details a couple of suggestions and their advantages. It claims NordVPN is great for speed but there are better VPNs for privacy that keep no logs and are located in 2nd world countries. First off I don’t really understand why if a VPN doesn’t keep logs it’s location would mater, there’d be no info to give anyone right? Secondly if you do a quick search the internet is filled with supposedly verified claims that NordVPN keeps absolutely no logs. Is this true? If it is true does this actually make my connection more secure in practice, or are there other more prominent fail points?

So far NordVPN seems lie a good fit for me but if someone can call them up and force them to hand over all of their info on a user doesn’t that somewhat defeat the goal of privacy in the first place?

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The only VPN, to my knowledge, that had proven in the court to not keeping any logs is PIA. NordVPN was audited and you could check that out.

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Nord isn’t located in the 14 eyes jurisdiction. That’s what matters.

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just wondering why my nordvpn file folder had about 70 gbs of files in it. it was taking up half of my ssd ?

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If no one can find logs it just means they’re well hidden

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How come only one anchor?

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The only VPN, to my knowledge, that had proven in the court to not keeping any logs is PIA.

Better yet a real-world case was with ExpressVPN getting their servers seized. The seize yielded nothing. Then next up would 100% without a doubt be PIA.

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Real-World Case:

  • ExpressVPN

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Possible Real-World Case:

  • Perfect Privacy

^(NOTE: Around August of 2016 Perfect Privacy announced that Dutch authorities had seized one of their servers in Rotterdam, Netherlands. The issue is they never released why but they did say it yielded with no information being given.)

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Court Case:

  • Private Internet Access

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Audit:

  • ExpressVPN
  • NordVPN
  • VyprVPN

^(NOTE: ExpressVPN has had Third-Party Audits along with real-world cases of being proven to not log.)

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EDIT: Please add more if you know more. This is all I know personally.

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I’m always leery of ”in-house” audits. There is nothing ”independent” about an independent audit.

The company was hired to produce the results NordVPN desired. If the outcome showed they kept logs they would not have published the audit. They would bury it and hire another ”independent” company.

Similar to putting an ”expert witness” on the stand. The defense hires their expert witnesses to corroborate their story. If they didn’t they would not take the stand.

All that said, I am NordVPN user.

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Expressvpn is also proven with the assassination of that politician in turkey

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The proven vpn are.

Perfect privacy ( got multiple server taken)

Air vpn (lost one or 2 server I think)

Express vpn (server taken)

Pia.

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PIA, expressvpn and perfect-privacy are the only vpns that I know of to have had a real life test of their no logging policy.

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The former CEO of Mt. Gox became CEO for a time of London Trust Company, the parent company to PIA. I highly doubt PIA is a trustworthy company :wink:

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I’ve used NordVPN for the past year and never had issues. No idea what you are talking about.

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I never had any problem with NordVPN.

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I have been using PIA for a couple years. Very happy with all the uses I have it for. Also, if you are concerned about logs, the FBI took PIA to court, to try to secure logs for a pirating case. In court, PIA proved they don’t have logging at all. If it stood up in court against the FBI, then I am good with that.

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It’s been a minute haha. I wasn’t planning on doing anything particularly shady at the time, I was looking into vpns so that I wouldn’t be tracked at work. But some of the info that I had found prompted this post out of a desire to better understand how vpns work. Ultimately I tried a few but ended up not using one long term.

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Wow. I did not know about all this. Thanks for sharing.

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A few days back I read this article about PureVPN’s third-party audit and no-logs verification: https://www.bestvpn.co/purevpn-audit/. The questions were a bit technical for my understanding.

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Which is owned by a data mining company