Former Malware Distributor Kape Technologies Now Owns ExpressVPN, CyberGhost, Private Internet Access, Zenmate, and a Collection of VPN “Review” Websites

Opera is completely owned by Chinese companies and it’s partially developed in China. I wouldn’t trust any of their products privacywise.

They have side businesses, like a predatory payday loan company that’s been accused of privacy breaches.

The current company isn’t even the original one that developed the browser. That one’s now called Otello Corporation.

Can you watch region locked Netflix shows with Opera?

I’m not who you replied to but I personally moved from PIA to ProtonVPN when I heard.

Given the genesis of the country and what happened in the first few decades of their existence, I do have to say that I’m not terribly surprised. It’s fucked up, especially nowadays, but it makes sense.

They are refering to a VPN to make outbound connections, youre referring to a VPN to make inbound connection. Very different things, one has a single endpoint, the other has the entire internet of endpoints.

Hes referring to setting up a VPN connection to a VPS, which essentially just means an extra hop when connecting outside your network, which doesnt really provide much privacy, especially if both the VPS and your home network are using the same network providers backbone. Having a VPS is Iceland or something does seem reasonable enough, though dont expect true privacy. Most streaming sites block connections from a standard VPS anyways.

Depends on the alternative

Sure. But you have been using the last couple of years with no issue. As long as you’re sure you have a viable alternative… though maybe in two years you’ll figure out somethin bad about your alternative too :man_shrugging:t4:

They aren’t? In the context of this thread they are worse than this malware company?

This statement is vague and misleading. You need to cover the FULL process of why and how it took place. Michael Bazzell has an entire episode on his podcast about this. If you’re even a bit shady on it, at least listen to that. But, just saying “they gave up an ip” without clarifying is a misrepresentative explanation of what happened.

The distinction here is that they gave away IP of their email user, not their VPN user because law covers only emails, not vpns, so if he used protons VPN his ip would be covered. They informed the activist about his IP being tracked inside the Email. Also all of the material on his email is encrypted, so they can only pin on him if he sent someone from that email address life threats or some other stupid shit or if emails of other people were compromised.

Proton can’t be responsible for people being complete fucking muppets and having zero knowledge of operational security.

Also, if you host your own VPN, you may open yourself up to tracking because all your traffic comes from a single IP address. When you use a VPN provider, your traffic is aggregated with that of other users. That doesn’t invalidate any of the other reasons to use a VPN, but I think it’s worth pointing out.

What would the point be? Paying for a vps to vpn into is just paying for twice the ISP with half the bandwidth.

Njalla. 100%. Anything outside of FVEY (5 Eyes) at least (preferably 14 Eyes). It consists of a non-formal intelligence agreement between (you guessed it) entities in 14 countries across the planet: Australia, Canada, U.K., New Zealand, U.S.,* (Japan?), Denmark, France, Netherlands, Norway,** Germany, Belgium, Italy, Sweden and Spain.**

    • 5 EYES (FVEY/NOFORN/NORCON etc.)
  • ** 9 EYES
  • ** 14 EYES

All SIGINT agencies rely on the cooperation of telecommunication companies and internet service providers to gain access to individuals’ private data. By installing fiber-optic splitters at ISP junction points, the SIGINT agency is able to make an exact copy of the data being processed at that point. This data is then analyzed using deep packet inspection and stored at different data centers.

Oh damn. Thanks for the heads up.

Damn thanks for that.

I wasn’t aware of that.

A linked article like this would likely have been okay, since it discusses VPNs as a general category, not a specific provider.

But considering how much Mod intervention these kinds of posts entail - we Mods had to remove many dozens of well-meaning recommendations for specific VPNs here, which is a sidebar rule violation - I can understand why a post there was removed.

Thanks, didn’t know side bar content is different in old.reddit

Why not trust the community to draw their own conclusions? That’s what the upvote, downvote, and reply buttons are for.

Limiting the discussion of which privacy tools can be recommended to only certain sources (with pretty clear conflicts of interest) is immediately suspect, particularly for a uniquely (and rightly) skeptical community like this one.

If you must, set up the automod to watch for a list of VPN names and have it automatically reply with warnings about ones that are and aren’t trusted by the moderators. At least that way you don’t have to have a blanket (and honestly, lazy) rule banning all discussion of them, and you can still convey to others your above concerns in an open and convenient manner.