Most young people I imagine know how a VPN works, or will figure out how to use one. At least I did when I was younger (23 now). Then they can sign up on the US version of the social media network.
Therefore the social media bill rendered useless.
Btw this is the best and easiest way I know of to stand up your own vpn. No way are social media blocking all Amazon/google/azure IPs
It’s effective against the great firewall of China.
It’s also worrying I’m having to recommend a tool designed primarily to circumvent controls of a communist dictatorship, for use in my own country.
Yes. Albo doesn’t give a shit about the kids. If he did, he’d start with gambling ads during sport
Kids know of VPNs
I’m a high school teacher. They bypass the tech and IT policies with ease
Like Stephen Conroys net nanny. This bill won’t really work but it keeps people that have no idea how things work voting for them. The whole thing is smoke and mirrors to look like they are doing something. War on drugs? They will show the “biggest bust on record” and you could 15 mins later go and get said drug without a problem. It’s all a big con to make suburban people feel safe.
Bring on the nanny state. Let the government parent your children cause you don’t want to.
Social media companies don’t need your IP to figure out where you’re posting from. Besides, almost everybody just gives them full access to the features on their phone, like GPS and wifi networks.
My question is how much will it cost our government to implement this??
Not only will it not work as effectively as they think, but my bet is they flush a truely shocking amount of tax payer money down the toilet to find that out.
Will be like old days
One kid had a computer
We all went to theirs
Two things, though: to enjoy being on social media you have to have a network of friends on there. So you rely on your entire network bothering with setting up VPNs and paying for it to post on already stale sm sites. Are kids in general going to bother going on Insta to post when chat apps like WhatsApp and telegram stay legal anyways? The only kids who are going to bother with that are the ones communicating with adults and people outside Australia, I bet.
The other thing is that browsing will still be legal. So unless they have a burning desire to share something with entire world, again I’m unsure if that many kids will actually bother with that as long as they can share in chat outside the big sites.
For adults, though, since you’re actually allowed to use the sites, I think the hurdle of having to upload ID to shady internet sites or linking them to myGov is probably higher than that of getting a VPN. So I bet it will be a bigger thing for adults.
“There’s a way to circumvent, so the law is useless” if that logic were true, then a huge number of laws are useless. All of IP law is useless because it’s still possible to copy things. The law against speeding is useless because the accelerator pedal still lets you speed. etc
yeh the bill is primarily to attach peoples id to their accounts and browsing
Shhh the teenagers will never work that out to access the sweet, sweet restricted stuff.
Up until the social media app requires location data.
Yes it’s still possible to fake. But it’s significantly harder.
The government has explicitly addressed that this is very hard to enforce but that that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do it if it is the right thing to do.
Even if the effect is marginal, putting up a roadblock will stop some people.
Like, most people I know drank way before the legal age, that doesn’t mean you make that legal
The VPN might physically circumvent the social media bill but it doesn’t legally circumvent the social media bill.
Also social media sites can tell if you’re using a VPN and given the fine social media organisations will have to pay for allowing social media users under the age of 16 to access social media is close to $50mil per offence I’m pretty sure social media platforms won’t be too happy and find ways to stop people using VPNs.
Yes these companies are huge but $50mil times the approximate 1.4 million teens that are under 16 that’s $70 quadrillion dollars (if I’ve done my maths right) potentially social media sites would have to pay and I don’t think these companies have that kind of cash even factoring in how big they are.
In addition to that there is talk about penalties for parents who allow children under the age of 16 to use social media. Whether that will be a financial penalty or prison time or what I don’t know but those conversations are happening.
Yeah, this is the problem with law makers, kids know the tech better, VPNs, APKs and VMs in other countries all bypass this,I suspect.
Yeah pretty much, then the government will need to spend more money on trying to enforce the unenforcable. But at least Albo will have some crowning achievement to go into the next election with.
Maybe… It will partly depend on the expectations of “reasonable steps”, how younger people try to evade the measure, what methods are suggested by the government’s age verification trial, and what the site in question deems necessary.
It’ll certainly help evade the measures. But IP is just one of many ways of determining your location. They’re gonna know you’re Australian when you sign up from a VPN, have Australian location data, connect from Australian wifi, etc.
So, it will probably hinge on the aforementioned questions.
Also, it needs to be repeated, bills aren’t pass/fail on whether anyone disobeys them (in much the same way we don’t declare age restrictions on alcohol a failure if a bunch of children are drinking).
If enough children are denied access then it will likely be deemed successful, even if a noticeable number of evasions occur.
Really, there’s just not enough information right now to really see what’s going to happen.
Most anti social media laws in Europe include VPN use be safe do your research
All of you saying this requires an ID attached to your account are wrong they have already said this won’t be the case and you won’t be required to submit any verification documents to social media companies
Social media companies have been working on this shit for years their ai models can already accurately predict age they don’t need anything from you.
VPN will not get around the onus being on the social media companies saying you’re from a different country won’t be enough when the way you post how you post who you post to your pictures everything is analysed.
You literally can’t hide.